i know you supported president obama. what about house leaders? do you sense other ceos are talking to house leaders? >> absolutely and i don't mean just senators. there's no question i believe the severity of our deficits and the future problems ahead of us are going to have to be addressed bay combination of revenue increase -- >> the question is larry, are they listening and are they prepared to make compromises that they were not prepared before? >> i think so. >> why do you think so? >> i think maybe it's the openness of the dialogue. in august of 2011 when we had this problem, you did not hear any ceo speak up. you did not hear a public discord about this. i actually believe the militancy of the ceos today is a very different phenomenon. maybe the timing is different. maybe the atmosphere is different. everybody is speaking out. one ceo may have a different opinion than another one. but the fact is an open dialogue, and an open dialogue is a democratic process. >> do you think the president should appoint a businessman or maybe even a republ